Executive Spotlight


Todd Nuttall
CEO and Chairman

Better ATM Services

Executive Profile Series with Todd Nuttall from Better ATM Services

PJ: In December, Better ATM Services and Visa launched a pilot program in which consumers could buy Visa-branded gift cards from ATMs that belonged to three credit unions in Arizona. What did Better ATM Services and Visa learn from the pilot? 

Nuttall: The pilot began in early December and included the 2011 holiday gifting season. At the most elemental level, an early lesson we learned was that many people wake up Christmas morning still needing to buy Christmas gifts! We had been pleased to see people quickly respond to ATM-issued Visa Gift Cards, but were quite surprised to see a spike in Gift Card sales on Christmas morning. This speaks precisely to the time-value convenience of the 24/7 service of ATMs. We have also seen tremendous response to the new, flexible Visa cards, which have worked well at the point-of-sale. We found it very interesting that these new cards have elicited comments about convenience from the point of view of reducing the bulk of the wallet or purse—consumers tell us it’s a great added benefit and they wish more of their cards were like it. Consumers are engaged by a coupling of primary drivers - time and place convenience and value for their money. People enjoy the added plus of getting a free cup of coffee or a coupon for food or other services with each card dispensed from the ATM. Instead of focusing on fees, consumers are focusing on value - "bang for their buck" - and convenience. We have learned, yet again, that if you build it right, they will come and come back for more driving ROI, strengthening brand awareness and, ultimately, moving market share.

PJ: Is there variance approval from Visa and what does that entail? 

Nuttall: Our efforts with Visa are strictly governed by their requirements in systematically introducing new products to consumers. Much of that effort is strategic and quite confidential in nature.

PJ: At the moment, the ATMs just dispense a $25 card. Are there plans to add reloadable products or closed-loop cards from retailers? 

Nuttall: The product lines and capabilities will constantly expand. We’ve already placed the infrastructure to allow the ATM user to select the value they wish to load on the card. However, open loop cards are just one application. As you can imagine, many closed-loop card programs would benefit greatly by having their products placed in ATMs that service their target market. ATMs, by their very nature, are located in convenient locations that serve particular audiences. Better ATM Services’ technology can be leveraged for virtually any prepaid product, including open-loop, closed-loop, transit, event passes, and more.

PJ: At the moment, Better ATM Services is working with Diebold, NCR and Triton. Will other follow such as Wincor and Fujitsu? What’s the response from the ATM manufacturer’s about this product? Will the cards be a standard addition to the machines or an add-on? 

Nuttall: The more brands and models that can be adapted for handling both cash and cards, the better the entire market and consumer base will be served. Better ATM Services is carefully integrating and testing its technology with the major ATM brands and will continue to expand. ATM manufacturers have been enthusiastic about a concept that allows their robust cash mechanisms to be used for other valuable products. This increases the value of ATMs to banks and independent deployers and creates more reasons to grow existing ATM placements. In some cases, the technology to load and activate cards will be available directly from the ATM factory. In other cases, a field-installable kit will be available. These are very simple, inexpensive kits that require no modifications to existing cash cassettes or bill dispenser mechanisms.

PJ: What is Better ATM Services' timeframe for the rest of the year regarding the gift cards initiative? Will larger banks start offering the cards soon? Might agreements ramp up as the holiday season approaches? 

Nuttall: Many of our efforts are governed by strict confidentiality agreements. As you can imagine, opening an entirely new distribution channel is a significant strategic move by both the financial institution and the card network. You can expect to see expanding card programs and increasing numbers of institutions augmenting their ATM capabilities using Better ATM® Services’ technology. 

PJ: Any concern about the growing popularity of digital gift cards and how that might affect Better ATM Services' plans with the plastic kind?  

Nuttall: Digital gift cards, mobile pay, and other innovations will likely grow. History shows us that robust payment systems tend to continue for generations. Beyond the unbanked and underbanked, an enormous market opportunity in and of themselves, prepaid products continue to have great consumer appeal and will continue to grow throughout the world. This growth and the enormous potential and capacity for growth appears to be more-than compensating for any market share being absorbed by new payment technologies. In fact, research on ATM-issued prepaid cards demonstrates that consumers did not necessarily reduce the number of cards they were already purchasing from other venues, but rather, they purchased more cards than they would have simply as a result of the convenience of the ATM.

PJ: What industry changes on the horizon truly excite you?  How will Better ATM Services take advantage of these changes? 

Nuttall: The act of issuing cards from the ATM is simply the tip of the iceberg. This, along with other payment innovations is opening the door for even more value-generating services. Beyond the opportunity to provide a wide array of ATM-dispensed products, there are also numerous developments looming on the horizon that will help consumers manage their disparate financial services. Think about it, the day of simply a checking account and a savings account are long gone. People are now mixing a large number of services including prepaid products and online payment systems such as PayPal and others for routine transactions. This is creating a need to begin linking all this data together and helping the consumer better understand, manage, and even be rewarded by their payment vehicle choices.

PJ: The prepaid market size in 2012 is now forecast to be $549.7B, according to Mercator Advisory Group estimates. How much of that market might ATM deployers reasonably expect to capture in the near term?  

Nuttall: Today, some 27 million ATM transactions are conducted each day, just in the United States. To the prepaid world, this represents an enormous opportunity. If just 1 of every 100 people conducting an ATM transaction chose to get a card product with their cash or instead of cash, that single choice would represent some 270,000 prepaid cards purchased every day. Pragmatically, you can see how the incentives and benefits associated with prepaid will drive adoption far higher than the 1% example I just shared.

PJ: How much traction for your products and services do you see in the FI space?   

Nuttall: Financial institutions have largely watched their customers leave to purchase prepaids elsewhere. Since FIs are indeed in the business of money, they cannot ignore the reasons why consumers continue the move to prepaids. Until now, it has been difficult for banks to offer cost effective prepaid programs and FIs have had to watch their customers go down the street and get their “prepaid accounts” elsewhere. The reality is consumers could truly benefit by keeping that relationship with their FI. By moving their prepaid programs to the ATM, FIs can now compete and even exceed the convenience, cost, and availability of prepaid products offered by their competitors. This also removes much of the headache of trying to manage these programs from the teller counter. We are seeing institutions throughout the world catch on to this opportunity and we will be expanding significantly with FIs over the coming year.

PJ: What might be some other areas in the ATM market that Better ATM Services wants to address?  

Nuttall: Independent ATM owners are facing increasing pressure to open up new revenue streams to keep their fleets viable against ever-increasing competitive and legislative pressure. At the same time, FIs need to counter the draw against their customer base by competing more effectively in growing payment categories. There is also benefit to be derived by inviting the unbanked to begin participating in financial services through prepaids. ATM-issued prepaid products really are a perfect method to achieve all these needs and goals. People use ATMs as a regular pattern and part of their lives. Many countries are already ahead of the US in ancillary services through ATMs and stand as proof that consumers want and will use ATMs for much more than simply cash.  

Better ATM Services is a technology innovator in the ATM industry. We supply patented technology enabling the world's fleet of ATMs to achieve new profitability by dispensing gift cards and other prepaid media, incentives and premiums directly from existing ATM cash cassettes with a minimal amount of modification. Cards are thinner and more flexible. They come on a 3-part sheet that fits in cash trays like currency. The card snaps off from the 3-part sheet, leaving two other cards, one card for customer service information and another with a coupon or special offer. These new flexible cards work well at the point-of-sale and have proven durable in rigorous testing. An in-market pilot program is currently underway offering Visa Gift cards at walk-up and drive-through ATMs in select locations throughout Arizona. 

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